“What I found was that with the two of them working together … there was just this amazing synergy and where the total is so much more than the sum of the parts. And it’s almost like what they both brought to it was amplified by the fact that they were both there and that they were delivering it together. It was just really wonderful – there was such a sense of safety, but also excitement of like, wow, this is a really safe space to have this absolutely amazing exploration.”